View Full Version : wut headers are best

03-26-2002, 03:19 PM
im lookin into gettin dc headers n i want to kno which ones i shuld get the 4-2-1's of the 4-1's ...which ones r better or are they same ?

Mr. Fabulous
03-26-2002, 03:38 PM
i have Chikara headers and they work just as good as DC but don't look as good as DC! The 4-1 headers are meant for highly modified engines. We're talking drag race. If you want street performance I would go with the 4-2-1. But that's this tuner's opinion

03-26-2002, 03:43 PM
I just ordered the DC 4-2-1 ceramic one- piece.

03-26-2002, 04:02 PM
DC has the best doller/hp ratio. 4-2-1 headers are more for the less hardcore racer, because they give more backpressure to create a little more torque in the lower rpm's. However they sacrafice top end peak power a little. The 4-1's still produce more hp and tq above stock throughout the rpms, but peak hp is higher, and higher in the rpms. Overall, you will see more hp gains with a 4-1 setup, and a little more low end torque with a 4-2-1 setup. Ceramic won't last as long, and the coating will start to crack over time, but holds in the heat better than the stainless steel. The stainless steel will last you until you die, and look better overall, but cost a little more.

Those are the facts about the differences between 4-2-1/4-1, and ceramic/ss.

03-26-2002, 04:05 PM
Oh ya...1 piece headers flow better, but you may need 2 piece headers for it to fit in your specific application.

631 Teggy
03-26-2002, 04:24 PM
For best performance. get Toda. They are the best headers of all of them. For good performance and more affordable. Get Comptech, or Apex. For cheeper but good. get DC 4-1 1 peice SS headers...

Outsider GSR
03-26-2002, 04:36 PM
The best header depends on the situation. If you are just bolt-ons (i.e. intake exhaust, no cams, no p&p) then the dc sports 4-2-1 one piece or comptech header are the best choice. Good luck

03-26-2002, 09:32 PM
thanks alot ...i think i mite go wit the 4-1 headers but its not final yet.

03-26-2002, 10:50 PM
wow why are all of you getting more than one header for your 4 cylinder car? try a search next time but for your info...4-1=good for high end 4-2-1=good for allaround applications 2piece= easy install

03-27-2002, 07:27 AM
if i have the money i'll go for TODA's for sure, but just too expensive for me. i'm using a DC 421 on my type R, it's pretty good for me. or you can go for JDM's 2.5'

03-27-2002, 05:45 PM
yeah man go jdm

Hybrid Hatch
03-27-2002, 09:15 PM
something that no one asked was... what is it on? is the car turbo? are you keeping it all motor? alot of stuff on cars has to do with what else your running and alot is personal preference... my headers are PERFECT for all motor but wouldnt be worth shit on turbo...

edit: Outsider GSR did mention something about it...

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03-27-2002, 10:39 PM
na im keepin my car all motor ..lol plus i culdnt afford turbo rite now.

Hybrid Hatch
03-28-2002, 11:10 PM
mine is all motor im using JG edelbrock... i love it! and it looks good too

03-28-2002, 11:24 PM
did u feel a increase in h/p or t/q at all?

Hybrid Hatch
03-29-2002, 12:00 AM
On 2002-03-28 23:24, 92blackteg wrote:
did u feel a increase in h/p or t/q at all?


03-29-2002, 03:33 PM
ok if you have ceramic coated header it'll eventually start to wear away right. but it holds the heat better correct. and if you spend more you can get stainless. which doesn't keep the heat as well. what I want to know is if you wrap your header how much does that keep that heat down and is it worth the ugly look.

04-04-2002, 01:43 AM
Hey uhh Hybird. You would not keep your header if you had a turbo. It is called a turbo manifold and it is specailly designed with a certain turbo in mind. Then there is the "down pipe" which goes to the cat. So no, your header would not be good for a turbo application. Not at all.