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TegBoarder
04-07-2002, 01:28 PM
What is a ballpark price on a GS-R engine, a Type-R engine, and a Prelude Engine? What would be best for a nice horsepower increase with a reasonable price that has good potentional? Thanks.
BTW, I have a '92 Teg GS.

ImportNightRider
04-07-2002, 01:33 PM
Type R's are nice, but they are hard to get parts for...seing as how you usually have to go overseas to get them. GSR's and Preludes both have good potential. I would go with the GSR if you can afford it, but parts for the Prelude are generally cheaper.

quicksilver
04-07-2002, 01:40 PM
Type-R's are not hard to get parts for. they are just as hard as any other Honda engine. B-series blocks like the Type-R are a very easy engine to work on. here's some estimates on engine swaps off the top of my head:

B18C5 (type-R): about 5k with tranny, ecu, etc..
B18C1 (GSR): 3500
H22A (prelude): around 2500

the H22 has the most HP out of all of them, but is a harder engine to fit into cars because it's bigger then the rest. plus they arn't as desirable as the GSR and Type-R engines. i'd go with with a B18C1 because it's turbo friendly.

g2teg
04-07-2002, 04:23 PM
go to http://www.jdmhondaparts.com.....they have pretty good prices (just as a reference) on everything from a b16a to a b20 or h22a. b20s are cool.

Bridgework1812
04-07-2002, 04:28 PM
b20 vtech, rock the world!!!!
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Logan
04-07-2002, 04:40 PM
i would also go with the type r engine. for a complete swap with transmission, ecu etc and installation i would think that you would expect to pay a little over 5k. It might be different regionally though.

Nameless
04-07-2002, 05:52 PM
On 2002-04-07 16:28, Bridgework1812 wrote:
b20 vtech, rock the world!!!!
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just bought a vtech phone. Arent they great!

REDTURBOTEG
04-07-2002, 06:15 PM
Bang for buck the best deal going right now is a B16. If your going to do a swap go with a B16. Heres why:

Cheaper
Easier to find than a GSR
cant feel the differce between a GSR and B16
Gsr only makes about 10 more hp to the wheels
B16 head flows better
same aftermarket support as GSR

It all depends on what you are driving.
e-mail me if you have any more questions
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PS if you have an LS or RS go with an LSVTEC but only use a b16 head. :grin:

95 teg se
04-07-2002, 07:53 PM
More displacement is always better thats why you'll get more power per part from a B18C1 than the B16 and even more from the H22A. I would not go with the B16.

TegBoarder
04-07-2002, 09:36 PM
What car is the b16 from?

95 teg se
04-07-2002, 11:38 PM
civic

quicksilver
04-08-2002, 01:12 AM
the best swap for the money would have to be a b20 block with a b18c5 head. your getting the most cc's for your money. plus that would be one vicious motor!

TegBoarder
04-08-2002, 09:42 PM
Let's narrow the field, I have 2,000 dollars. Now what are my options?

S2-Raw
04-08-2002, 10:00 PM
With $2,000 I would say your only option would be B16A. My buddy just recently swapped one into his '91 Civic hatch. In stock form it's capable of mid 14's. I would opt for the J-spec B16. In the U.S. the '99-up Civic SI comes with a 160 hp B16A1. In Japan They have a civic called the SI-R. Itís a 170 hp B16A3. The only difference between the SI-R and the U.S. GS-R is the torque.
-B18C1 (GSR)= 170 hp 128 lb-ft
-B16A3 (JDM SI-R)= 170 hp 117 lb-ft

TegBoarder
04-08-2002, 10:22 PM
On a scale of 1-5, 1 being the easiest 5 being the hardest, what am I getting into going with the b16a swap as far as labor?

fiasco88
04-08-2002, 10:29 PM
I would try the b20 vtec.

92TypeR
04-09-2002, 07:26 PM
2

because something always happens where it confuses the f*ck out of every1.

the swap isn't hard at all, its the wireing.

Max'dLude83
04-09-2002, 11:14 PM
With only 2k to spend you can't get more than a b16A1, if any engine. I would recommend saving your money and buying a b18c5. You will start off with some nice power there. :eek:

TegBoarder
04-09-2002, 11:34 PM
I would love to do that, but I'm leaking oil somewhere in my car and it would just be alot easier (if it's in the bottom end) to just replace the whole engine now instead of waiting another year to do this. (I can only work in the summer.)

S2-Raw
04-10-2002, 08:38 PM
Wait a second, your leaking oil and that's why you wanna swap the motor??? :???:

If anything I would keep the engine you have, swap the internals and get a turbo kit.

Motor problems solved and power up the asshole.

TegBoarder
04-11-2002, 08:10 PM
Sure, but I'd rather get a new engine so I can have a nice base horse horsepower line. I could go ahead, buy a b16a and then get a turbo, because then I would have the 160 horse plus the extra from the turbo.

Shulder
04-12-2002, 12:58 AM
Type R engines are hard to find
GSR Engines are easy to find, great install HUGE Potential...
Prelude Engines, have more HP/Torque, but dont you love revving higher then all the other cars without upgrading your cams?
SI Engines...Well they are good for CRX's I spose, but they GSR's have 3.2 more HP to the wheels then SI's and yes the Si's head flow nearly similiar to the type R, but the bottom end lacks low end torque..

purple ek
04-13-2002, 03:40 AM
finding a type R motor itself is a mission..and when u do..expect to pay at least 5500 for it...

gsr motors...not all that cheap either..low mileage gsr motors start out at 3200...

prelude motors...usually start off at around 3k...but keep in mind...this is a high maintenance motor...parts are not easy to find....and if its going to go into a hatchback..custom axles need to be made...this is one nasty all motor waiting to be unleashed..but unless u got access to prelude parts..id stay away from it.