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92blackteg
03-24-2002, 11:05 AM
i waz wonderin if its possible to drop a h22 dohc vtec engine in a 92 intgra ...cuz my friend did it to a civic hatch ...n ifs its possible im thinkin bout swappin mine? :???:

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DaNish
03-24-2002, 11:12 AM
Go for it, I bet that hatch isn't too good at turning..

SilverAc
03-24-2002, 11:40 AM
Nah man don't do it, u'r gonna fuck up the wieght displacement of u'r car. U'r gonna be top heavy and turns are gonna be murder for u. Fuck the H22 leave that to the preludes, go with a B18C type R or a B-20 and do a v-tech conversion. U'll see that u'r car will be more responsive and i believe u'll kill any h22. Remember it's not so much how much hp u have compared to u'r opponent's hp. It's really how much hp in comparison to the wieght of u'r car, that will send u flying down the strip.

clrkh23a1
03-24-2002, 03:16 PM
why bother even puttin the b18c5 in your car..the hp diference is only 25-27 depending on the gen of the integra R. you can bolt on the hp diference with the money you save, but that is just my opinon. and address the h22 swap, you plannin on turbo'n the car?..cause if you're gonna run high boost, the vtec is worthless anyways..most people end up disconnectin the vtec.

epy
03-24-2002, 03:35 PM
I think silver hit it on the money, I agree with him it's not how much hp you have its how much you weight and how fast you can pull it.

ImportGuy7
03-24-2002, 10:16 PM
hey i agree with silver to h22 is way to hevy for that car. go with the b18c. thats like the all around best moter for tegs.

92blackteg
03-24-2002, 10:18 PM
ight thanks 4 the info n ill do the b18c swap..its not gunna b 4 a lil while tho ...but im def. doin it

epy
03-25-2002, 07:00 AM
lets us know when you did it, i'm sure we will want to hear if it was a sucess

92blackteg
03-25-2002, 06:20 PM
yea ofcourse n i always come on here to get opinions n find out info...but its prob not gunna b till the end of this year but i like to start planning early n know exactly wut im gunna do.

Toda Party
03-25-2002, 06:23 PM
do not post topic subjects as "??"

thats just gay.

if u have a question about "if its possible to drop a h22 dohc vtec engine in a 92 intgra "

then put "h22 into 92 integra - possible?"

is it that hard? :evil:

92blackteg
03-25-2002, 11:43 PM
u think i give a f*ck . i got my answer didnt i. if u dont like it then dont look :evil: :evil:

Toda Party
03-26-2002, 01:04 AM
On 2002-03-25 23:43, 92blackteg wrote:
u think i give a f*ck . i got my answer didnt i. if u dont like it then dont look :evil: :evil:


U might not give a fuck, but the people who see ?? as the subject will just skip right over your post because you were too lazy to specify.

btw, nice new title you have there

JDMRicePolice
03-26-2002, 01:30 AM
On 2002-03-24 11:40, SilverAc wrote:
v-tech conversion.

I don't think he wants to add a Phone into his car...
If he does, just buy a cellphone :lol:

JDMRicePolice
03-26-2002, 01:32 AM
On 2002-03-25 23:43, 92blackteg wrote:
u think i give a f*ck . i got my answer didnt i. if u dont like it then dont look :evil: :evil:


Listen you stupid ass newbie. You dont be swearing at any of the mods alright?

You can do any swap you want but I can gaurentee you I will still be faster then your gay ass.

TegBoarder
03-26-2002, 11:11 AM
On 2002-03-24 15:16, clrkh23a1 wrote:
why bother even puttin the b18c5 in your car..the hp diference is only 25-27 depending on the gen of the integra R. you can bolt on the hp diference with the money you save, but that is just my opinon.




The thing is that if he does just say "to hell with an engine swap" he'll lose out on the 25 hp. Sure he may be able to bolt on the 25 horse, but if he went with the swap, giving him an extra 25 hp, then bolted on 25 hp with intake, headers, etc. he'll be up an extra 50 horse. So do big things first then do small stuff, swap then bolt.

92TypeR
03-26-2002, 04:39 PM
it will take more than bolt ons to bring a gsr to a type-r motor. MAX of 15 wheel hp with i/h/e. The difference in wheel hp between a gsr and R is about 22. The R is the perfect platform to start a car on. Out the door it will make your car a low 14 sec car, and with basic mods it puts you into the 13's. You will need to put over 2,000 to get into the 13's with a gsr in it. The valvetrain on the type-r is 100x better than the gsr for n/a projects. Plus you get the tranny, which is the best road-racing tranny that honda offers. If you have the money, definately get the itr motor. I did my research and I know all the pros and cons between the 2, and trust me, i am perfectly happy with the R in the teg.

92blackteg
03-26-2002, 09:43 PM
1st off all i got to say it that i got my answer...n also its sad ur like prob almost 30 years old wit grandkids trin to son out teenagers n trin to say u gotta faster car than me cuz u hav a fulltime job wit benefits n make more money than me...im comin on this site to get help on my car n learn shit from people that actually kno summin ....n it the people like u i kno that dont got a clue bout nuttin ...so im not even gunna bother listenin to u...o n good looks to all the people that gave me ur opinions n ideas.

90tegboy
03-26-2002, 10:47 PM
yeah...screw with the mods and act like cock when given a simple suggestion wont keep you around long enough to get advice around here. not to mention anyone who knows shit about cars will hate your ass now. :roll:

Toda Party
03-26-2002, 11:00 PM
On 2002-03-26 21:43, 92blackteg wrote:
1st off all i got to say it that i got my answer...n also its sad ur like prob almost 30 years old wit grandkids trin to son out teenagers n trin to say u gotta faster car than me cuz u hav a fulltime job wit benefits n make more money than me...im comin on this site to get help on my car n learn shit from people that actually kno summin ....n it the people like u i kno that dont got a clue bout nuttin ...so im not even gunna bother listenin to u...o n good looks to all the people that gave me ur opinions n ideas.


1) 92TypeR and myself are 19 years of age.
2) Ur a dumbass. 92TypeR has the same exact car as you, and has the same exact swap u were asking about, and u flame him? good job!
3) Good luck finding help on future subjects from anyone who knows anything..which is basically me, 92, jdmricepolice, 631 teggy, turbogsr, and a few select others. So when someone tellls u that its ok to run 15 psi on stock internals, we will all :lol: at you.


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Max'dLude83
03-26-2002, 11:02 PM
Dude you don't just start cussing to mods for no reason. Show them at least some respect......(except toda) :lol: j/k all of them.

92blackteg
03-26-2002, 11:09 PM
i waznt sayin that to all the mods n i said good lookin to every1 that helped me . n 92typer waz one of them. i psoted this to get opinions not to hav all the mods get madd cuz i titled it "???" if u didnt like it u culda jus said when ya post next time b more specific n i wulda been fine wit it but no u wanted to go all crazy about so im not gunna sit ther n take it n i kno u wuldnt too

Toda Party
03-26-2002, 11:22 PM
On 2002-03-26 23:09, 92blackteg wrote:
i waznt sayin that to all the mods n i said good lookin to every1 that helped me . n 92typer waz one of them. i psoted this to get opinions not to hav all the mods get madd cuz i titled it "???" if u didnt like it u culda jus said when ya post next time b more specific n i wulda been fine wit it but no u wanted to go all crazy about so im not gunna sit ther n take it n i kno u wuldnt too

true and i apologize.

if you go thru every forum you will see how common the "???" or "help" subjects are.

92blackteg
03-27-2002, 12:08 AM
ight ...n i apologizr 4 cursein n buggin too and ill b more specific when i post new threads from now on. cuz i mean we dont come on the bord to hav the crap go on we come on to talk bout integras and all hondas n imports in general n 4 opinions n help lol not to make a sopa opera outta it

B20GSR
03-27-2002, 05:51 AM
Go for the B20.

fiasco88
03-27-2002, 06:00 AM
On 2002-03-27 05:51, B20GSR wrote:
Go for the B20.


That's not a biased opinion is it?? Haha :grin:

B20GSR
03-27-2002, 06:02 AM
On 2002-03-27 06:00, fiasco88 wrote:


On 2002-03-27 05:51, B20GSR wrote:
Go for the B20.


That's not a biased opinion is it?? Haha :grin:



Naw, not biased, just experenced! lol :lol:

fiasco88
03-27-2002, 06:11 AM
I'm guessing you've mated a GSR head to a B20 block? How does that work with the VTEC? Is that a hard motor to make?

B20GSR
03-27-2002, 06:25 AM
On 2002-03-27 06:11, fiasco88 wrote:
I'm guessing you've mated a GSR head to a B20 block? How does that work with the VTEC? Is that a hard motor to make?



The B20Z block comes from a J-Spec CRV. It is exactly the same as an LS block except the piston bore is 84mm instead of 81mm.
The B20 is a 2.0L block compared to the LS witch is only 1.8L. The tourqe is insane.
This is a very easy engine to build. The heads bolt right on and the motor mounts all match up. You'll get around 220hp with all the stock B20 internals and the GSR VTEC heads. The only problem is that it is an expensive engine to build, and I do recommend upgrading the inteurnals because they are weak. Especially the rods, they're only designed to handle around 6000 rpm. I used the GSR rods, they did lower my compression because they are shorter (LS rod lenght - 3.5 in./ GSR - 3.43 in.)but they are alot stronger.

TegBoarder
03-27-2002, 10:56 AM
How much did that B20/VTEC cost you?

TegBoarder
03-27-2002, 11:01 AM
On 2002-03-26 23:00, Toda Party wrote:



On 2002-03-26 21:43, 92blackteg wrote:
1st off all i got to say it that i got my answer...n also its sad ur like prob almost 30 years old wit grandkids trin to son out teenagers n trin to say u gotta faster car than me cuz u hav a fulltime job wit benefits n make more money than me...im comin on this site to get help on my car n learn shit from people that actually kno summin ....n it the people like u i kno that dont got a clue bout nuttin ...so im not even gunna bother listenin to u...o n good looks to all the people that gave me ur opinions n ideas.


1) 92TypeR and myself are 19 years of age.
2) Ur a dumbass. 92TypeR has the same exact car as you, and has the same exact swap u were asking about, and u flame him? good job!
3) Good luck finding help on future subjects from anyone who knows anything..which is basically me, 92, jdmricepolice, 631 teggy, turbogsr, and a few select others. So when someone tellls u that its ok to run 15 psi on stock internals, we will all :lol: at you.


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:lol: 15 PSI on stock internals :lol:
This reminds me of the v6 Teg.

B20GSR
03-27-2002, 01:53 PM
On 2002-03-27 10:56, TegBoarder wrote:
How much did that B20/VTEC cost you?


The B20Z2 block only cost me $200 because someone owed me an engine, and I just got lucky that it was a J-Spec. I hear the reagular B20B block will run you around $800 - $1200 depending on condition and where your getting it from, but that's how most things are anyway. Just be sure to check the cylinder walls and pistons really good for cracks. Chances are if you buy from an individual they tryed runing to much boost and fried the internals. But if you find a crack then get the block reseleved and uprade all the internals.
My GSR heads cost me $500, yet another deal from a friend. Listed below are some qoutes that I rieceved on individual parts. These may differ from what you can get, but it willgive you an idea of the basic costs to build a B20-GSR.

B20B block........................$800-$1200
JE Pistons 85mm (bored over)......$650
Crower Rods.......................$600
Resleveing........................$300-$1500
GSR VTEC Head.....................$500-$1200
Engine Balancing..................$150-$500
APEXi V-AFC.......................$380

Hope this helps a little.
Later peeps. :wink:

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Benzo
03-27-2002, 02:05 PM
just for SilverAc's information i myself have murbered a b20 type-r in a hatch sprayin and am all motor and i killed an integra gsr with a fully built b20 block sprayin too so dont try and gas people up cuz i couldn't be more happy murdering *****s like u in my shit all motor

B20GSR
03-27-2002, 02:18 PM
On 2002-03-27 14:05, Benzo wrote:
just for SilverAc's information i myself have murbered a b20 type-r in a hatch sprayin and am all motor and i killed an integra gsr with a fully built b20 block sprayin too so dont try and gas people up cuz i couldn't be more happy murdering *****s like u in my shit all motor



Hey I'm not here to talk shit, just here to help. I think anyone who has to talk shit over a chat board like you has to be pretty damn weak and insecure, or maybe jeliuos.
Besides you didnt know that I run a Gerret turbo @ 20psi, Apexi V-AFC, and Apexi AVC-R did you? If you even know what any of that is anyway.
You should be more careful about who you talk shit to so take it somewhere else. :evil:

Toda Party
03-27-2002, 06:36 PM
damn 380 for a vafc?! someone got ripped off!

u should be paying arouind 300 for one of them

Logan
03-27-2002, 06:44 PM
i've never seen one that high either

XAcidManX
03-27-2002, 11:04 PM
No offense to anyone, but is it asking too much to use full words and less of the AIM slang...Its hard to read.