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CRXTZ
07-03-2003, 03:34 AM
Sorry i know this is prolly a really retarded question but what cars actually count as DSM?

What years?
cars?
models?

As i understand it the newer eclipses don't count nor do the old school mitsus, so i'm a lil unclear what exactly is and isn't a DSM.


Also i'm not flaming or anything, but would it really be that much more dificult to post in the Other Imports forum?

80Camaro350
07-03-2003, 03:44 AM
this forum was devised as a solution to a problem we were having in the lounge. please dont question thnx

DSMpower92
07-03-2003, 06:48 AM
People say the gvr4 is a dsm, but i don't claim it... to me the true dsm is 89-94 Talon/Laser/Eclipse

but 2g is consired a dsm 95-99

89-94 came in
Eclipse gst,Talon TSI,Laser RS-T(turbo'd fwd) 2700lbs,stock boost around 10,2.0 DOHC 4g63 that put out 195. with about same ft lbs

Eclipse GSX,Talon TSi AWD(turbo'd awd) 3100lbs,same hp etc. as gst

Eclipse GS,Talon ES,Laser RS 4g63 dohc non turbo 135hp, and they came in a 1.8 n/t which is a sad motor

95-99

Eclipse GS-T,95-98 Talon TSi(fwd) 210hp around 3K lbs

Eclipse GSX,Talon TSi awd,210hp, close to 3200 lbs

GiRtHyTaLoNtSi
07-03-2003, 01:03 PM
do we consider a turbo mirage or colt as a dsm ?

DSMpower92
07-03-2003, 01:46 PM
i dunno,but i'd love to have a colt hatch converted to awd, 4g63t,20g or somethin 8)

Anonymous
07-03-2003, 01:53 PM
im confused as to why they are not all dsms.....i was told by someone on here that dimond star motors was just another word for mitsubishi.

CRXTZ
07-03-2003, 03:47 PM
i'm more confused... i thought DSM was created after mitsu went to hell and dodge through in there money to help them. With that reasoning i thought all cars that mitsu and dodge made that shared the same chasis/motor were DSMs... well aparantly not.. also why aren't the newer clipses DSM anymore?

DSMpower92
07-03-2003, 04:06 PM
because there pos, non 4g63, slow

CRXTZ
07-03-2003, 04:11 PM
i dunno about them being pos.... i'd take a 3000gt vr-4 over an eclipse... though i dun like the stealth back as much i'd take one of those too... so instead of talken shit about every car that isn't yours why don't you enlighten us to the ACTUAL reason why they aren't considered DSM's....

DSMpower92
07-03-2003, 04:35 PM
hahah i'm talking shit ? i'm talking facts bitch. It doesn't have a 4g63 or 4g64 theres your reason dick face

80Camaro350
07-03-2003, 04:37 PM
i dunno about them being pos.... i'd take a 3000gt vr-4 over an eclipse... though i dun like the stealth back as much i'd take one of those too... so instead of talken shit about every car that isn't yours why don't you enlighten us to the ACTUAL reason why they aren't considered DSM's....

he wasnt talking about anything except the new eclipses which imo are pos

MyLittleRedCar
07-03-2003, 06:24 PM
People say the gvr4 is a dsm, but i don't claim it... to me the true dsm is 89-94 Talon/Laser/Eclipse

but 2g is consired a dsm 95-99




DSMpower92... you are ignorant... the 2g eclipses/talons ARE DSMs.... along with the galant VR4, the 4g63 colt, the Cyclone, and a number of other cars that all held 4g63s in their engine bays... and yes the new eclipses are POSs... and they're ugly too... but whatever... "YOUR only DSM is the first gen eclipse/talon/laser"??? :-? aight brotha... what the fuck does that mean... next time you're gonna rag on someone that wants to learn... at least make sure you know what you're talking about... try not to sound too much like an ass...well... its too late for that...

peace out.

80Camaro350
07-03-2003, 07:12 PM
yo chill no need to flame.

MyLittleRedCar
07-03-2003, 07:23 PM
too late... look at my other posts... this guy is a fuckin wannabe though... i hate that shit... i'm sorry if i offended YOU though 80Camaro350, i didn't mean to (no sarcasm)

80Camaro350
07-03-2003, 07:24 PM
well for real this is the shit that gets him going on his flame post sprees. he didnt do anything to you he didnt say anything to you. whyd you have to go and start shiit with him

sk8rmike
07-03-2003, 09:34 PM
any car w/ a 4g63 can be considered a DSM. it was a group effort between mitsu/chrysler

A joint effort by Mitsubishi (three diamonds) and the Chrysler Corporation (penta-star) to build some of the most incredible automobiles in the world. The vehicles were produced with the names Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, and Plymouth Laser. DSM cars are assembled in Normal, Illinois. The '94-and-up Mitsubishi Galant is also assembled at the DSM plant in IL; previous Galant's were assembled in Japan. The Eclipse and Galant (since '89) share the same platform

thats straight from vfaq.com right there. i have heard that some of the NT t/e/l's did come w/ the DSM sticker on the inner part of the door...the ones w/ the neon motor in them...so they too can be considered a DSM technically...

MyLittleRedCar
07-03-2003, 10:37 PM
i started with him because he was wrong... no need to defend ignorance there buddy... and what the fuck is he the HULK or something.. he's gonna get all pissed and god help us all??!?! lol.. that's pretty dumb... whatever yo... this is a message board... i have the right to my opinion... and my opinion is that 92DSMpower is ghey... and thats it... peace out...

DSMpower92
07-04-2003, 04:59 AM
i'm not wrong your wrong. Not every fucking car with the 4g63 is a dsm , your trying to own me by saying i'm wrong when your fucking wrong, OK the evo's come with 4g63.....is that a DSM, NO


LEARN YOUR SHIT BEFORE YOU TALK SHIT

El Jefe
07-04-2003, 05:13 AM
mylittleredcar, leave the flaming out of this forum

CRXTZ
07-04-2003, 05:48 AM
i'm not wrong your wrong. Not every fucking car with the 4g63 is a dsm , your trying to own me by saying i'm wrong when your fucking wrong, OK the evo's come with 4g63.....is that a DSM, NO


LEARN YOUR SHIT BEFORE YOU TALK SHIT

learn to be less redundant you said wrong 4 times in 2 sentences... and you're is you are... your is just your...

MyLittleRedCar
07-04-2003, 03:45 PM
o god.. how i despise stubborn ignorance... when in god's great earth did i say that ALL 4g63s were DSMs??? that wasn't me.. that was sk8rmike, but then again.. you just wanna throw a fit... whatever yo...

sk8rmike
07-05-2003, 03:13 AM
basically from what i've read on DSMtuners.com etc...there is just a bigass debate among DSM'ers about this...so i dont think anyone is going to really have a right answer....

DSMpower92
07-05-2003, 03:04 PM
i never did say that only 1g's were DSM's i said the true meaning of DSM to ME is a 1g dsm.

MyLittleRedCar
07-05-2003, 03:38 PM
whatever bro... cause DSM is an ABSTRACT idea that can be interpreted differently by people... like religion... ok :lol: